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Unfortunatly over the past years numbers seem to be going down, and harder to catch. The numbers in Pigeon might be going
down because of all the walleye, I put my camera down last winter and seen very few, and the one I did see were large one.
The same can't be said a gull, which seems to have a good population of average sized whites with some nice ones mixed in,
they just seem to be smarter than the average whitefish. Sylvan has always been good for 12-14 inches from what I've heard.
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* maggots are an excellent addition to any bait
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